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MY FAMILY TREE with the strangest of connections!

by budapest8 - last update: Aug 21, 2006

Vikings to Normans to Englishmen

I was home with my father for 3 days in Aug 2006 and he has been busy
with working on the family tree. I will post some interesting snippets
I took pictures of. An eye witness account by Master Vale at the battle
of Trafalgar, a copy of a telegram sent to my great Aunt announcing
the end of the war from the admiralty, sent to her brother Jack who
was responsible for building PLUTO, carrying more than a million
gallons of fuel for the ships on D Day.
The family back to 1327

King Edward III, a connection likeClapham Junction


Yes I have a microscopic amount of blue blood
and I`m more English than the Queen (She was of German stock).
But then again I guess the only true Brits are the Celts. Edward III rd
King of England was really called Eduard and spoke French not English.
His dad, Edward II nd was a bit of a `Queer `king and prefered to share
the soffa with his male lover than his wife the new Queen.
All this shirt liftin didn`t go down too well in the times when men were
suppossed to be real men! He met with a nasty end and he was put to
death by having a red hot poker rammed up his bum,OUCH!
Not exactly a regal way to go!
They seemed to breed like rabbits and had enough children to
make up a football team, and then their kids did the same,
so it was not uncommon for one king to have more than 70
grandchildren.I be will writing down some of the interesting people
connected to our family or the ones I`m directly decended from.
So I will try to write as much as possible over the coming months.
Well some of the main people worth mentioning will be

Succession of the Dukes of Normandy
(My direct ancestors)
Rollo 911-927 Rollo of Normandy
William Longsword 927-942
Richard I 942-996
Richard II, the Good, 996-1027
Richard III, 1027-1028
Robert the Devil, 1028-1035
William the Conqueror 1035-1087
Robert Curthose 1087-1106
Henry Beauclerk 1106-1135
Stephen 1135-1144
Geoffrey Plantagenet 1144-1150
Henry II 1150-1189
Richard Coeur de Lion (Richard Lionheart) 1189-1199
Jean Sans-Terre (John Lackland) 1199-1204
John 1204-1216 (claimed)
Henry III 1216-1259 (claimed)

King Edward III rd,

The Plantagenet family,

John Bourchier, 1st Earl of Bath,

The Fulford Family,

1 Achyn or Achym family member,

The Henning Family,

The Buxton Family of Daresbury Hall
(Lewis Carrol, pen name of `Alice in Wonderland`author
was born in the Daresbury Hall Pastors house. )

Sir Thomas Fowell Buxton my Great Uncle (5 times) was resonsible
together with William Willberforce in helping to end slavery.
There is a statue of him in Westminster Abbey.

Elizebeth Fry Of the famous Gurney Quaker Family
( she changed the prison system for women).
Then came the Vales whom I am the last of.
My Granny (Ruth Vale) wrote the original family tree back in late 50`s
with add ons put in the 60`s.I have spent quite a long time researching
dates and deaths and the whereabouts of original documentation.
The original picture of Sir Thomas Fowell Buxton hangs on my sisters wall at home.
Mont Saint Michel .. historic pilgrimage site

Rollo ist Duke of Normandy "Rollo the Gangler"

Rollo of Normandy

Rollo (c.860 - c.932) was the Frankish-Latin name taken by (probably)
Hrolf Ganger (Hrolf the Walker, Old Norse: Hrolfur Ragnvaldsson and
Gangu-Hrolfur, Norwegian: Gange-Rolf). He has also been called
"Rollo the Gangler" in some works, or occasionally "Robert".

Rollo was a Viking leader, probably (based on Icelandic sources) from
Norway, the son of Ragnvald, Earl of Moer; sagas mention a Hrolf, son
of Ragnvald jarl of Moer. However, the latinization Rollo has in no
known instance been applied to a Hrolf, and in the texts which speak of
him, numerous latinized Hrolfs are included. Dudo of St. Quentin
(by most accounts a more reliable source, and at least more recent and
living nearer the regions concerned), in his Gesta Normannorum, tells of
a powerful Dacian duke (or count?) at loggerheads with the king of
Dacia, who then died and left his two sons, Gurim and Rollo, leaving
Rollo to be expelled and Gurim killed.(1) With his followers (known as
Normans, or northmen), Rollo invaded the area of northern France now
known as Normandy. This does seem somewhat unlikely, as Dacia had
by then ceased to exist, and was right at the opposite southeastern
corner of Europe. Wace, writing some 300 years after the event,
gives a Scandinavian origin, as does the Orkneyinga Saga, Danish or
Norwegian most likely.


Concluding the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte (911) with the French king
Charles the Simple, Rollo pledged feudal allegiance to the king,
changed his name to the Frankish version, and converted to Christianity,
probably with the baptismal name Robert. In return he was granted the
lower Seine area (today's upper Normandy) and the titular rulership of
Normandy, centred around the city of Rouen. There exists some
argument among historians as to whether Rollo was a "duke" (dux) or
whether his position was equivalent to that of a "count" under
Charlemagne. According to legend, when required, in conformity with
general usage, to kiss the foot of King Charles, he refused to stoop to
what he considered so great a degradation; yet as the homage could not
be dispensed with, he ordered one of his warriors to perform it for him.
The latter, as proud as his chief, instead of stooping to the royal foot,
raised it so high, that the King fell to the ground.

Sometime around 927 he passed the Duchy of Normandy to his son,
William Longsword. He may have lived for a few years after that, but
certainly died before 933.

He was a direct ancestor of William the Conqueror. By William,
he was a direct ancestor of the present-day British royal family,
including
Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The "clameur de haro" on the Channel Islands is, supposedly, an
appeal to Rollo.

See also for reference on the web: Alesund, Viking Age, Dukes of Normandy

Preceded by:
1st Duke of Normandy Succeeded by:
William I

(1) For those who assume that Dudo was confused or mistranslated in
his Gesta Normannorum and really meant "Denmark" and not "Dacia",
the kings of Denmark during Rollo's lifetime (c. 860-933) were probably:
Harald (not the famous Harald Bluetooth) for the first three years of
Rollo's life, the two co-rulers Halfdan (not the famous Halfdan the Black)
and Sigfrid, and the kings of the Swedish Olof dynasty. This may lead to
additional confusion, as Ragnvald (or Rognvald or Rognvaldr) was killed
by another Halfdan, the son of a Harald, but this Harald is Harald
Fairhair, king of Norway.

References and external links + poem APOSTROPHE


D.C. Douglas, "Rollo of Normandy", English Historical Review, Vol. 57
(1942), pp. 414-436

Robert Helmerichs, [Rollo as Historical Figure]

Rosamond McKitterick, The Frankish Kingdom under the Carolingians,
751-987, (Longman) 1983

Dudonis gesta Normannorum
(http://www.fh-augsburg.de/~harsch/Chronologia/Lspost11/Dudo/dud_f.html)
- Dudo of St. Quentin Gesta Normannorum latin version at Bibliotheca
Augustana
Dudo of St. Quentin's Gesta Normannorum

(http://www.the-orb.net/orb_done/dudo/dudindex.html)
- An English Translation

APOSTROPHE

Oh rollo, mighty duke and most superior leader,

Through christ's gift this town will flourish under your leadership,
It will be built at a future time, once the realm has been calmedby peace,
Once the Franks have been devoured by war, and the populace broken.
Behold the mount (note 4) of the church where you kept seeing yourself
rejoice,
Behold here the font of the bath where you were cleansed of leprosy.
This fatherland is to be built by your followers, themselves renewed in
the font.
To the peoples in that town you will give laws and alliances
And rights likewise, with the fear of strict penalty.
Marvelously, then, in the coming time of your descendants
Fierce ages will grow tame, wars having been banished,
And ungodly fury, sitting on its arms, will challenge no one
With its cry, the strength of ungodliness having been undone.
Rather, let the fierce wolf graze at the same time in the sheep's field.
Sir Thomas Fowell Buxton

Thomas Fowell Buxton (1786-1845)


Biography
Thomas Fowell Buxton was born in Essex in 1786.
He went to school in Kingston-upon-Thames, where he was unhappy,
and later in Greenwich. In 1801 he returned to East Anglia,
this time to Norwich where, although an Anglican, he became friends
with the Quaker Gurney family. He studied at Trinity college Dublin from
1803 to 1807, and graduated with great distinction. In 1807 he married
Hannah Gurney and the following year he became a partner in the
Truman Brewery. Inspired by the Quakers, he became an advocate for
social reform. In 1816, when much of the population of Spitalfields in
London was starving, he joined and became one of the most forceful
voices in the campaign for their relief. Between 1816 and 1820,
working with Elizabeth Fry, he campaigned for prison reform and, after
1820, became involved in the campaign to abolish capital punishment.
Unfortunately, that campaign was not to prove successful until the
1960s. In 1818, he became MP for Weymouth in Dorset, a seat he held
until 1837.
The slave trade had been abolished in 1807, but many wished for a
complete abolition of slavery. Working with William Wilberforce, Buxton
founded the Society for the Mitigation and Gradual Abolition of Slavery in
1823. Two years later, on Wilberforce's retirement, Buxton assumed the
leadership of the campaign in Parliament. He campaigned tirelessly
until the passing of the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833 that ended slavery
in Britain and its colonies. Nonetheless, slavery was still a major activity
in many parts of the world. In 1839, Buxton published The African Slave
Trade and Its Remedy which advocated diplomacy with African nations
to end the slave trade. The British government accordingly sent a
mission to Niger but, in Buxton's view at least, it was a failure.
Reputedly worn out by the affair,
Buxton died in 1845. He was created a baronet in 1840.
There is a monument to him in Westminster Abbey.

His picture hangs on my sisters wall at home.

The Buxton Family of Leytonstone House


Thomas Fowell Buxton (1821-1908) was the youngest son of a
large and influential family who moved into Leytonstone House,
near the Green Man at Leytonstone, when it was vacated by his
eldest brother
in 1847. He had married Rachel (1823-1905), daughter of Samuel
Gurney of Ham House, the grounds of which now constitute
West Ham Park, and they had fourteen children although three died in
infancy.

Four of his sons became leaders in their chosen field: John Henry
Buxton (1849-1934) Director of Truman, Hanbury, Buxton Brewery,
Chairman of the London Hospital; Geoffrey Buxton (1852-1929)
Director of Barclays Bank; Alfred Fowell Buxton (1854-1952)
Chairman of London County Council; Barclay Buxton (1860-1946)
became a Christian missionary in Japan. They were cousins of Edward
North Buxton of Knighton, Buckhurst Hill who fought to save Epping
Forest, Hainault Forest and Hatfield Forest.

Ellen Buxton was the second daughter of Thomas Fowell Buxton
and from the age of twelve she kept a diary in which she recorded
details of their daily lives with many sketches of her family, and the
outings they made. In 1964 extracts from the diaries were published
by Geoffrey Bles of London as Family Sketchbook - A Hundred Years
Ago by E. Ellen Buxton. This was followed by Ellen Buxton's Journal in
1967 and together they make a fascinating account of a well-to-do
family living in a large house on the edge of London.

The father, Thomas Fowell Buxton, spent his working life at the family
brewery of Truman, Hanbury, Buxton and at the London Hospital,
where he was Chairman. Ellen was a bright, enterprising girl who
spent much of her time helping to look after her four youngest brothers
and sisters. The following extracts (with slightly more punctuation than
in the book) give an account of their daily routine in 1862,
when Ellen was fourteen.


"Early in the morning at six o'clock I generally wake up,

so then I light a candle and sit and work or read till

half past six; then I get up and when I am dressed I work

again till half past seven; then we go down to Papa and

Mama and do anything we like till eight o'clock.

At eight Miss Smith [the governess] comes down, and she goes in

to 'Early Breakfast' with Johnney, Arty, Geoffrey, Alfred and I.

At half past eight we have prayers, and we always have a hymn for

which Johnney, Lisa and I take in turns to play the music.

After Reading the boys and Papa play Battledoor and Shuttlecock;

and at a little before nine o'clock Mama, Papa and Lisa go in to Late

Breakfast - and Johnney goes off with a hoop to his school - and Arty,

Geof, Alfred and I generally go out in the garden or stay in and do

anything we like. At ten we all come in to lessons, and they end at a

quarter to one, then we all have luncheon together at one, and then

go out in the garden or do anything we like. At four we come in again

to afternoon lessons, and when they end at half past five we then all go

down and have Schoolroom tea, except Lisa who has a music lesson

so she waits and has dinner with Mama and Papa. After tea we all go up

and dress, then the boys and I share the two pianos till seven o'clock,

so we get all our practise done then. At seven Miss Smith reads us

Macaulay's history till half past seven, then Mama, Papa and Lisa come

out of dinner, and Alfred, Geof and Arty go to bed, Johnney, Lisa and I go

to bed about half past eight, so we read and work with Papa and Mama

till then."
Not just a brick...

Their routine on a Sunday included bible reading and hymns
at home, church at eleven, luncheon at one and then the
children were set texts to copy out. There was a further
visit to church at three before visiting relatives or a walk
in the nearby forest before tea.

Summer holidays were spent on one of the Gurney family
estates near Cromer in Norfolk. The journey was easily made
in a day with their own carriages taking the family and servants to
Stratford Station where everyone, plus horses and carriage, were
transported by train to Norwich. The family had a saloon carriage with
easy chairs, a table and even a small nursery area. The last part of the
journey was made partly in their own transport but carriages were also
sent out by their relatives for servants etc. While on holiday they played
more, had long walks and carriage rides, picnics, walks along the beach
and often met up with their numerous aunts, uncles and cousins.
Phillipa Of Hainult Wife to Edward III

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Hungarian Hussars- 8
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GrantBoone Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:20 UTC
 Thanks mate , Sarande once and Budapest once!
JLBG Sun Sep 13, 2009 19:57 UTC
 Thank you Tim for visiting my Bar, Ulcinj and Stoj pages. I hope that you will soon visit again these places. I am just back from Slovenia. There is a lot to visit there too!
Mikebond Sun Sep 6, 2009 09:24 UTC
 Hi Tim! Thanks for visiting my hp, Boulogne and Bp page. Boulogne is a lovely town, not only ferries! About my Bp tip, it's only the result of a research for a poster in the forum. I went to Bp by train. Thanks for the info, anyway.
lindsaylovestravel Sat Aug 29, 2009 17:45 UTC
 amazing page, wonderful pictures. interesting.
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