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Warnings Or Dangers: Unpaved Residential Streets!
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  • Written by glabah on Jun 20, 2007
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  • Portland - Portland has a number of unpaved streets:watch out
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  • There they are on the map: just like any other street, shown just the same as any other residential street.

    But be careful! As any Portland resident will tell you, there are a number of city streets in Portland that have not been paved yet. Some may not be suitable for travel in small cars, and some may not be suitable for anything other than a walking path as they aren't suitable for any road vehicle to pass.

    Almost all of the time, you will find these marked with signs that say "ROADWAY NOT IMPROVED" as if it weren't obvious.

    Photo 1 shows a more severe case of unpaved Portland streets, while photo 2 shows a more typical situation.

    Please be aware that these streets are not necessarily on the outskirts of the city either. Some are quite close to downtown. All of them are in quiet residential areas though, so most likely you will only run into these if you are here to visit friends or relatives.

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    Warnings Or Dangers: Downtown Under Construction (regularly)
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  • Written by glabah on Jul 23, 2007
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  • There is always stuff under construction in downtown Portland. We are always promised "Life Will Get Better Soon!!". Don't ever believe it. Soon afterward, they will tear up all the streets again and make it almost impossible to get anywhere.

    You might be able to get somewhere if you tried walking, but sometimes the closed sidwalks say "Sidewalk Closed Use Other Side" and point to the closed sidewalk on the other side of the street.

    You might be able to get somewhere if you tried using public transit, but some of the re-routes can be quite arcane.

    I was born in Portland, and it has been like this as long as I can remember.

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    Warnings Or Dangers: Narrow Residential Streets
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  • Written by glabah on Aug 9, 2007
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  • Portland - Narrow streets: Portland's history, today hazard
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  • Some very narrow streets exist in the older residential areas of Portland. There are in fact even several of these downtown, though those have been converted into one-way streets to allow for modern traffic.

    This isn't necessarily the case in some of the residential areas.

    Just off Hawthorne, just off Division, and in various other areas of the inner east side you will find two way streets where you will have to wait for traffic coming the other direction. This is particularly the case if cars are parked on both sides of the street so that only one middle lane of traffic is available.

    And if some idiot is driving too fast towards you and isn't paying attention? Either get run into or get out of their way.

    If you visit the small art galleries in SE or go shopping on Hawthorne and park on one of the residential cross streets, you may find yourself on one of these. One or two of the worst ones are one-way in these areas now as well.

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    Warnings Or Dangers: Uncontrolled Intersections
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  • A number of Portland (and some suburbs such as Gladstone and Oregon City) intersections in residential areas are still uncontrolled.

    See the photo: there is no stop sign or even a yield sign on any of the corners of this street intersection.

    About 30 seconds before I took this photo, some women went blasting through this at about 40 mph (the speed limit is 25!). While she didn't hit anyone, if two such people ignore the type of intersection they are entering a collision is going to happen.

    If Driving or Cycling:
    1. Keep the speed limit: 25 mph in Portland residential areas.
    2. Watch for traffic, particularly those who aren't paying attention to where they are going.
    3. Pay attention to the type of intersection, and be particularly observant around these that have no control devices.

    If walking: pay particular attention to 2 and 3 above at this type of intersection.

    Portland is slowly working on trying to eliminate these, but work is slow, and there are many intersections in the lightly traveled residential areas that only see a few cars a day.

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    Warnings Or Dangers: Weather is Vastly Variable with Location,Elevation
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  • Updated by glabah on Sep 21, 2008
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  • Portland - Weather changes with elevation: snow vs. grass
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  • Over the small area covered by the city of Portland and its surrounding areas, there are perhaps 8 different climate areas, and elevations that range from sea level to slightly over 1,000 feet (about 300 meters). Some areas can be encrusted in ice while other areas are reasonably warm and possibly have sun.

    Weather reports seem to usually use the Portland airport as the monitoring station, but the Portland airport sits in the wind blast zone from the Columbia River Gorge and is also located almost at sea level. Thus, frequently the weather reported for "Portland" doesn't match what is actually happening in the majority of the city. Most of the time there isn't that much difference. Other times, there is a huge difference.

    Photo 1 shows a recent photo of the West Hills. In the level section of northwest Portland, the nice green grass shows no sign of accumulated snow. 400 feet above, in the hills, there is significant snow accumulation and signs have been folded down on the roads leading there saying that tire chains are being required. This is one of the best illustrations of how suddenly the weather can change in a short distance in Portland. Photo 2 shows what this looks like after walking up into the hills themselves.

    Now, here is the painful reality: when the temperature drops just slightly in the evening, all this mess that is here just wet streets will turn to ice, and make a huge mess for those trying to drive anywhere. When both of these photos were taken in early 2008, the temperature was just slightly above freezing. Walking was easy during the day, as the water was liquid. Getting down these hills after it all freezes, either on foot or by driving, will not be an easy undertaking.

    Here are some basic climate zones in the Portland area you may hear on weather reports:

    "East County": this is a highly subjective term, and can be used to describe anything east of Interstate 205 to anything east of Gresham. Areas along the Columbia River get wind and cold winter weather the wind brings. Further south into Gresham and further east areas are in a cold weather zone from the Cascade mountains, and a wind from the east can drop the temperature a lot.

    "West Hills": the ridge west of downtown Portland, and runs from West Linn north all the way to Longview, but generally the term only referrs to that area immediately west of downtown Portland.

    "Downtown": generally west of the Willamette River and east of I-405, but the weather zone extends east all the way to Mt Tabor (SE 60th Avenue or so). This hill protects areas west from direct hits from weather from the east.

    "Tualatin Valley": this area is west of the West Hills, and includes Beaverton and Hillsboro. It is protected from cold weather from the east wind, but it is higher in elevation than downtown Portland. One can be freezing while the other well above freezing.

    The following areas are generally never referred to in local weather reports, but have separate weather systems:

    Milwaukie to Oregon City and West Linn: generally these areas are somewhat further protected from cold weather by a ridge of hills on the east side of the metro area.

    Clackamas: generally falls into the same category as the above, but if the weather is coming off the mountains it will come down a series of valleys and make Clackamas much different. Around April of 1993, there was a freak snow storm that happened in Clackamas, while the rest of the Portland area was enjoying a nice, warm spring day.

    Troutdale (includes Wood Village and Fairview): this area receives the strongest winds from the Columbia River, and may be significantly colder (or at least feel that way!) than the general "East County" term.

    Upper level of Oregon City and West Linn: these areas will get snow and ice when the freezing level is extremely low, but they are also be subject to fairly severe fog during the winter due to humidity from Willamette Falls.

    The link below is to another tip I wrote about Portland weather, which features some links to weather information.

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    Warnings Or Dangers: Street Lakes
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  • Written by glabah on Feb 5, 2008
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  • It isn't unusual for Portland street drains to get plugged up. Generally, they do this during heavy rains, and soon a huge puddle forms.

    I'm not quite certain why it seems like this is a far worse problem here than in other cities I have visited. Possibly it has something to do with the shape of the street drains. Possibly it has something to do with the number of hills, which means certain street drains are particularly key to keeping water out of the street.

    In any event, if you want to stay dry, you will want to stay away from these, particularly on busy streets where an automobile driving through one of these at high speeds will create a tidal wave and soak everything (and every one!) within range.

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    cachebrat13 Sat May 2, 2009 02:53 UTC
     That's funny. I'm a Californian and I miss the rain between dry seasons and want to move where it's rainy-er! So I'm considering moving up there and yeah, I'd never carry an umbrella.
    jumpingnorman Mon Feb 9, 2009 18:39 UTC
     you have excellent and extensive portland tips -- it will take me a while to go through them! So far, I learned it is the city of roses! (never been there -- will visit someday) Norman :)
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     Wonderful page, from a fellow Portlander...actually Milwaukie. Phil
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     What a great page! So much to learn!!!
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